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Today we are pleased to present to your attention the development of French scientists - the AMX-50 Foch 155 tank destroyer. In the future, we will call this Foch 155 artillery mount.

History reference

After the end of World War II, France did not have its own tank with heavy weapons installed on it. In this regard, the French government invited industrialists to develop new types of heavy armored vehicles. And just a few months later, the French company AMX presented its experimental "Project No. 141". This armored vehicle was armed with a 90-mm Schneider gun. By the 49th year of the last century, the company was able to produce two samples. After running and impact tests, it was decided to increase the thickness of the armor skin, as well as to replace the weapon with a more powerful one.

In 1950, the first model with a 120-mm cannon rolled off the assembly line of the enterprise. This prototype was labeled AMX50 Foch. I would like to note that the AMX50 Foch self-propelled guns and its modification AMX 50 Foch (b) were produced on the basis of the French AMX heavy tank. The self-propelled guns are distinguished by enhanced armor and powerful weapons. Many note the similarity of the amx-50 foch 155 tank destroyer with the well-known heavy tank destroyer, the Jagdpanther. However, Foch had its own significant differences, advantages, among which it is worth noting the muzzle brake and the hull with an anti-cannon armor class. In addition, a turret was installed on the right side of the roof, in which an anti-aircraft heavy machine gun was mounted. And to the left of the machine-gun "nest" was the commander's tower, in which important equipment for accurate shooting was installed - a rangefinder.

The developers believed that the AMX-50 Foch 155 tank destroyer, which was added to replace the amx 50 foch 155, would be an excellent support for tanks with a 100-mm cannon, because the novelty is able to fire at the most dangerous targets from a long distance. Already in 1951, Foch 155 passed all fire and sea trials, after which it began to be delivered directly to the troops. However, over time, in the interests of standardizing the armies of NATO member countries, this fighting machine has been discontinued.

Gaming features

Specification evaluation

This Foch 155 (b) is offered in Elite condition, which means that the model does not have any additional modules that can be researched.

So, Foch 155 (b) has only 1900 HP, which is the minimum amount of "health" among all level ten SPGs. However, this indicator is smoothed out by the excellent speed of movement and turn of the combat vehicle. In addition, this self-propelled gun has VLD armor, due to which shells can often ricochet and / or not penetrate frontal armor.

Advantages and disadvantages of Foch 155

Advantages:

high speed movement;
increased speed of scrolling the case;
loading drum (allows you to fire three shots within ten seconds);
booking of the front part;
masking indicators;
low inconspicuous silhouette.

Flaws:

"log" laid on the roof;
protracted reload (forty-five seconds after three shots);
poor armor of the side part (a hit by a landmine of lvl 9-10 almost always leads to full damage);
small angle of operational aiming of the gun vertically (it is practically impossible to shoot down);
long aiming;
small horizontal angle.

Tank destroyer modules

1. Gun 155cm - SA58AC

The gun in this self-propelled guns is very mediocre, and main reason its mediocrity is the presence of a reload drum. Only three projectiles and a whopping forty-five seconds of reload time! Of course, with such a weapon you can easily send single-level CTs or TTs to the hangar, but you can just as easily fly out of the battle yourself when reloading. In the case of the Foch 155(b), every shot is just gold. Any ricochet or shot at "milk" brings you closer to reloading and possible death. When playing on this tank, your favorite button will be - "C". There is an opportunity - immediately recharge.

2. Motor unit Maybach HL295F
The maximum power of the unit is 1200 horsepower. The probability of a critical fire is 15%.

Playing the Foch 155

Next, we offer a short guide on the correct game on Foch-155 (b). There are a lot of video guides on the Internet that tell about the gameplay on this type of tank. The game on Foch can be roughly divided into two categories - support and ambush. Next, let's take a closer look at these tactics.

Support: In other words, you need to move behind an allied CT or TT. Note that Foch is a great help to push the right direction. We came across a couple of opponents - move towards them and discharge the entire drum into them. Yes, you may get a couple of penetrations, but at the same time you will deal good damage, and your allies will be able to finish off the enemy without any problems.

Ambush. This type of self-propelled guns has excellent camouflage, and if you add a camouflage net and a 100% crew camouflage skill to it, you will get excellent result. If we compare any other similar tank with the Foch 155 in ambush, then the latter definitely looks better. And its main advantage lies in the drum with shells. Any tank moving towards you while you are in ambush is doomed. Your first shot will be fired from the "invisibility" state. The second shot will sound before the enemy can answer. And even if there was a light, then the opponent will need some time to stop and take a good aim. Whether to fire a third shot or not is up to you. If you see that the enemy will be destroyed by him, then feel free to shoot, otherwise, it is better to retreat. Get out of your position and reload.

17-10-2017, 12:08

Good day and welcome to the site! Friends, today our guest is a very interesting tank destroyer, which has serious combat power, but at the same time has a large number of weaknesses. This guide is about the French Tier 10 tank destroyer in World of Tanks - the AMX 50 Foch B.

TTX AMX 50 Foch B

To begin with, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that our safety margin is less than that of many tank destroyers at the level, and the basic visibility of 380 meters leaves much to be desired, although this parameter can be significantly increased due to perks and equipment, but about this below.

Now let's look at the armor characteristics of the AMX 50 Foch B and there is nothing to be particularly proud of. The fact is that the strongest part in our armor is the VLD, which occupies almost the entire frontal projection. This area has an excellent slope and in the reduction it reaches about 314 millimeters of armor, which is very good. But it will not be difficult for the enemy to break through our tank destroyers, because he will aim at NLDs and turrets, and they are already not so well protected. It is also worth noting that the VLD can easily be pierced by another level 10 tank destroyer. The sides are also not very well protected, so rhomboiding will not help this car much.

Regarding mobility, the situation is good. The AMX 50 Foch B tank destroyers in World of Tanks gave a good maximum speed and, to be honest, the specific power of the engine allows you to quite cheerfully reach the maximum speed, and the dynamics against the background of the tank destroyers of our classmates is decent.

AMX 50 Foch B gun

The most important argument in the dispute! The gun of the AMX 50 Foch B is really outstanding and it's not about tolerable mixing and armor penetration, the fact is that this tank destroyer has 6 shells in the drum. With an average damage of 400, we get 2400 average damage output. It turns out that in one-on-one firefights with most tier 10 tanks, we have a good chance of picking up an enemy tank from one reel. I think no more arguments are needed to start downloading this car. And besides, the reloading of the drum also occurs very quickly, in about 35 seconds.

Advantages and disadvantages of the AMX 50 Foch B

As you can see, the AMX 50 Foch B in World of Tanks really has a great advantage in its performance characteristics, but the car is not without its drawbacks, so let's structure them.
Pros:
Fast reloading of the drum;
Big damage from the drum;
Good parameters of armor penetration;
Strong frontal armor VLD;
High maximum speed;
Good stealth factor.
Minuses:
Basic review is below average;
A large number of vulnerabilities in the reservation.
Small amount of HP.

Equipment for AMX 50 Foch B

In view of the foregoing, for this unit, the selection and installation additional modules plays huge role, and we will focus on leveling the shortcomings. In addition, it is worth remembering that the RAMMER cannot be installed on the AMX 50 Foch B in WoT due to the drum loading system. Therefore, the equipment is set up as follows:
1. - the most useful module in our case, because it acts in a complex way, allowing you to improve visibility, mixing, reloading, etc.
2. is also an extremely important choice, because only with it the speed of mixing can be brought closer to comfortable.
3. - a good increase in viewing range, especially in combination with the first item and correctly selected perks.

As usual, there is an alternative to the third point, or rather two:
1. - more greater magnification review, especially relevant if you do not have a pumped crew.
2. - this option will allow us to increase camouflage and feel more comfortable when shooting at a distance, standing in the bushes.

It is also worth understanding that if you bet on the AMX 50 Foch B WoT one of two alternative options equipment, a more passive style of play is assumed, but the choice is yours.

AMX 50 Foch B crew training

The choice of skills for the crew is clearer than ever! In addition, the choice is not so big and the gold standard has long been known to everyone, including regular readers of our guides. And in this case, preference is given to improving the accuracy of shooting, camouflage, increasing general characteristics and survivability, so on the AMX 50 Foch B the perks are upgraded in this order:
Commander (Radio Operator) - , , , .
Gunner - , , , .
Driver mechanic - , , , .
Loader - , , , .

Equipment for AMX 50 Foch B

As for the choice of consumables, everything will be standard. If you don’t have extra silver or gold, feel free to take , and . However, a much more reliable option, providing more comfort and self-confidence, would be to equip the Foch 155 with equipment in the form of , , . By the way, I want to note that our tank rarely burns and it is better to replace the fire extinguisher with. Of course, it turns out more expensive, but it will be much more comfortable to play.

Tactics of the game on the AMX 50 Foch B

Rolling out this unit into battle, you must always remember all its advantages and each disadvantage, because the whole game is built on this.

The game on the AMX 50 Foch B is based on three pillars: disguise, dynamics and drum. Either we stand in the bushes and throw back the drum after the drum on the enemies illuminated by the allies, or using the dynamics and the ability to take 2400 durability points from one magazine, we simply catch the enemy tanks and pour damage into them. It all depends on the map and the specific combat situation.

But it should be understood that with all these pluses, we have a poor, on average, overall armor of our tank destroyers and a low amount of HP, so any wrong decision can be fatal for the AMX 50 Foch B on the battlefields of World of Tanks.

Outcome

Thanks to the drum, we get almost an imba in our hands, which, most likely, will be nerfed in the foreseeable future. So have time to enjoy the device while it is on top!

AMX 50 Foch (155) in Update 9.20 World of Tanks is being transferred to promotional Tier 10 tank destroyers French branch WOT. To replace the AMX 50 Foch B is added to the research branch to replace the French tank destroyer AMX 50 Foch (155).

AMX 50 Foch (155) performance characteristics

For those who are not yet familiar with this amazing machine, here are the basic characteristics of this tank destroyer. So, amx 50 Foch (155) cannot boast of a large margin of safety and viewing radius: in this regard, the “Frenchman” loses to many classmates. Note that if the number of HP cannot be increased, then a rather short view of 380 meters can be improved by installing additional equipment and crew skills.

If we talk about the characteristics of the chassis, then the impression is ambiguous. The PT can accelerate to 57 km/h and confidently maintain cruising speed. However, the amx 50 Foch (155) has frankly weak dynamics and maneuverability, so medium and light tanks easily spin it.
One of the key features of any tank in the game is weapons. The amx 50 Foch (155) is equipped with a drum-loading gun, which can be considered as a strong and weak side of the machine. Let's try to explain the double proposition. 3 projectiles are loaded into the drum, the alpha of each varies within 750 units. Accordingly, by accurately shooting the drum, you can inflict about 2,300 damage to the enemy. Given the relatively good armor penetration of the base shell, the numbers look impressive: almost any tier 10 tank can be taken out of the drum.

Now about the unpleasant. A full drum charging cycle takes 50 seconds (in the basic configuration), the interval between shots is 5 seconds. As a result, amx 50 Foch (155) cannot openly trade damage with faster-firing classmates, and will ride helpless for almost a minute, avoiding contact with the enemy.

In addition, the “Frenchman” is let down by the accuracy and stabilization of the gun, the UVN and UGN evoke quiet sadness.

How to get AMX 50 Foch B and AMX 50 Foch (155)?

With the release of update 9.20, serious changes are expected in the game that will affect fans of French tanks. The thunderstorm of the random AMX 50 Foch 155 (Foch 155) will be removed from the development tree and will move into the category of promotional vehicles.

Instead, a new tier 10 AMX 50 Foch B tank will appear at the top of the development branch. Now let's get to the main point: how to get AMX 50 Foch (155) and AMX 50 Foch B?

If the vehicle is researched but not yet purchased, you will have to splurge the silver and purchase the tank until it is removed from the tech tree. Players who have not upgraded the French PT branch will have to hurry up and have time to get a car before the release of Update 9.20. In principle, there is still about a month left, so you need to start right now.

Equipment AMX 50 Foch (155)

Considering that the formidable “Frenchman” has enough obvious shortcomings, it makes sense to correct the shortcomings by installing additional modules. There is one caveat here: the rammer, beloved by many, is not installed on guns with a drum loading mechanism. Therefore, we recommend that you install:

Ventilation - gives a small but complex bonus to all the characteristics of the machine.
Stabilizer - will help to significantly improve the mixing time.

The third slot is usually filled variably, the player can choose from the following modules:

Improved optics - remember that the amx 50 Foch (155) is "sighted".
A stereo tube is a good alternative to the previous module, especially with a stock crew.
Camouflage net - PT has a squat silhouette, but it's better to play it safe.

AMX 50 Foch Crew Perks and Skills (155)

In terms of crew training, you can adhere to generally accepted standards and pump skills in the following sequence:

In addition, do not forget about combat consumables that will help increase the vehicle's survivability in high-level battles. Here we also act in a standard way and load a fire extinguisher, a first aid kit and a repair kit into the fighting compartment of the anti-tank gun, especially since the developers do not offer players special choice and diversity.

Armor AMX 50 Foch (155)

Let's talk about booking. If we consider the dry numbers given in the description of the car, the values are far from impressive. In the frontal projection, we see only 180 mm, the sides and stern are protected by plates with a thickness of 40 millimeters. However, the armor plates of the frontal part are located at competent angles, respectively, the reduced armor will be about 310 mm.

The sides and stern of the French anti-tank guns are penetrated by everyone without exception, the roof is a tasty morsel for enemy artillery. In addition, above the frontal part of the amx 50 Foch (155) there is a clearly visible rangefinder, which is considered vulnerable spot.

How to play the AMX 50 Foch (155)

We note right away that playing on this PT requires certain skills, the machine clearly needs to get used to it. Here it is important to clearly know the strengths and weak sides machines, competently use the advantages and skillfully level the disadvantages. We pass from theory to practice.

AMX 50 FOCH (155) is a second line technique that should support the attack or defense of the team. Accordingly, we competently take a position and do not experience any particular discomfort in view of the long CD. When choosing a position, you need to unequivocally save from artillery and strictly keep the firing sector, taking into account weak air defense forces: in order for the vehicle to remain invisible, it must remain motionless.

"Frenchman" perfectly holds a frontal strike and tanks damage well, but with some reservations. In particular, if the enemy is taller in silhouette, the armor will no longer save - the advantages of the cast will be reduced to zero. In addition, a well-marked rangefinder spoils the monolithic picture of the frontal reservation. To complicate the targeting of vulnerable areas, you must constantly "dance" to increase the chance of a ricochet.

In general, the game should be built based on the time of full reloading of the drum. Players will constantly have to face the dilemma: leave the last projectile to finish off the enemy or go on cooldown. Therefore, you need to constantly monitor the mini-map and respond in a timely manner to any changes in the situation. Remember that amx 50 Foch (155) should not be heroic and bravely go on the attack in splendid isolation. Always stay close to teammates who can cover during reloading.

World of Tanks fans are sure to be looking forward to the release. Healthy excitement is caused by a significant rebalance of vehicles, which will affect most of the nations in the game. However, let's not focus on all the tanks, but let's talk about the French development tree. In particular, about level 10 tank destroyers.

With the release of the update patch, the “old-timer” of the game will disappear from the branch. This drum-type AT is transferred to the section of promotional vehicles, and as a replacement, the players will be offered a new “ten” AMX 50 Foch B. Considering that the introduced equipment is always of interest, let's consider the main characteristics of the new PT.

AMX 50 Foch B performance characteristics

Immediately, we note that the main technical parameters remained unchanged. The developers decided to leave the old collage model, they just changed the armament of the vehicle. The new Foch still has a low silhouette and a certain shed, but has lost a gun with a drum loading mechanism.

In addition, the PTs slightly removed the mass and slightly increased the specific power of the engine. In principle, this should have a positive effect on driving performance, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

So, the margin of safety remained at the same level and is 1,850 HP. This is far from a benchmark among level 10 PTs. In terms of visibility, the improvements are also not noticeable, and the visibility radius of the AMX 50 Foch B is only 380 meters. Considering that we are talking about anti-tank gun, for which it is important to be the first to detect the enemy and deal damage, the indicator needs a clear increase.

Let's move on to speed. According to the preliminary characteristics, which the developers sparingly mentioned, the maximum speed will be 50 km/h like its predecessor. The turn of the chassis leaves much to be desired, so the car will be quite comfortable and willing to turn "fireflies" and medium tanks.

However, given that the engine power to weight ratio has improved, we can assume that the AMX 50 Foch B will be slightly faster than the AMX 50 Foch (155). Of course, these are just our guesses, but they have a basis.

Comparison of AMX 50 Foch (155) and AMX 50 Foch B

Now about the main thing. Fans of the AMX 50 Foch (155), which by the way was the first, and for a long time the only PT with a drum, can forget about this advantage.

If you have previously upgraded the tank destroyer branch and managed to research and purchase the amx 50 Foch (155), you should not worry at all. The tank will remain in the hangar and become promotional. Instead, the player will be given an AMX 50 Foch B absolutely free of charge. If the vehicle has been researched but not yet purchased, you will have to spend some silver and purchase the tank until it is taken out of the tech tree. Players who have not upgraded the French PT branch will have to hurry up and have time to get a car before the release of Update 9.20. In principle, there is still about a month left, so you need to start right now.

Equipment AMX 50 Foch B

The French PT has quite a few shortcomings that will have to be corrected on their own. To do this, the equipment is installed optional equipment, which can improve some characteristics. We recommend trying this set:

Rammer - there is no more drum, so we increase the rate of fire.
Ventilation - we get a slight bonus to several characteristics at once.
Stereotube - in a stationary state, it is the best option fire the first shot.

As in most cases, the last module is variable, so it can be replaced with coated optics or a camouflage net. By the way, there is no urgent need for the latter: the car has a squat silhouette, so it will not glow after a shot due to double bushes.

AMX 50 Foch B Crew Perks and Skills

If you have already ridden an AMX 50 Foch (155), you can simply leave the previous upgraded crew without resetting your skills. Players who have just reached the pinnacle of French PT evolution can upgrade perks in the following order:

Be sure to load consumables that can increase the survivability of any vehicle in random and team battles. The game does not give much choice, so we get a fire extinguisher, a first aid kit and a repair kit. If funds allow, you can use gold analogues with advanced features.

Booking AMX 50 Foch B

No surprises are expected here. The frontal projection is still covered by powerful armor plates, 180 mm thick. The sheets are located at right angles, which brings the value of the reduced armor to 300 mm. You can see "dull" 80 mm in the sides, only 40 in the vulnerable stern. Experienced players will throw AMX 50 FOCH B into the sides with high explosives, which will be absorbed with maximum damage. Let's not forget about the thin flat roof, where artillery hits will organically go, causing critical damage to internal modules and crippling crew members.

Note that despite the good values of the frontal armor, you need to tank the damage very carefully. In the upper part there is a well-marked long-range detection device, which cannot boast of good protection, therefore it is easily broken even by opponents 1-2 levels lower.

How to play the AMX 50 Foch B

Many players, having bought the long-awaited level 10 PT immediately feel invulnerable and try to rush directions along with heavy tanks. This is a classic mistake. All anti-tank self-propelled units in the game they are notable for their sluggishness, they are easily penetrated by experienced players even in a powerful frontal projection, they suffer from artillery. Therefore, you should not rush forward on a dashing horse, but soberly assess the strengths and weaknesses of the car.

In particular, the AMX 50 Foch B is a second-line tank whose main function is to support allies. Therefore, we occupy the vending double bushes and begin to methodically shoot the illuminated opponents. It is important to understand that ATs suffered from armor penetration, so you don’t need to stand on the third line or even in the far corner of the map: shells lose penetration depending on the flight distance.

In city locations, we try to hide the vulnerable NLD behind piles of garbage, do not stand static, preventing enemies from targeting vulnerable areas. It is highly recommended not to engage in direct confrontation with heavy tanks. If the AMX 50 FOCH B loses to the enemy in silhouette height, good armor loses its advantages.

In addition, don't forget to keep an eye on the mini-map, react in a timely manner to changes in the situation so as not to be left alone with more maneuverable opponents.

Moreover, whoever has it in the hangar will keep it as a unique promotional tank of the 10th level and a new pumpable top will be added!
The new vehicle will be 50 Foch B. This is a similar vehicle, but with better armor and a 120 mm gun with 6 rounds of 400 damage instead of 155 mm.
Old Foch (155) even upnuts:

Added SCR 619F radio.
Added Saurer 1000F engine.
Removed SCR 619 radio.
Removed Saurer engine.
Improved hull armor.
Changed the elevation angle of the 155 mm AC SA58 gun from +12 to +18 degrees.
The depression angle of the 155 mm AC SA58 gun has been increased from -5 to -6 degrees.
The car was transferred from researched to promotional.

Details of the replacement from the developers:
AMX 50 Foch (155) - a real old-timer of World of Tanks. Although in last years The vehicle's weaknesses have become obvious, and it is significantly outperformed by other Tier 10 tank destroyers; it can still be spotted from time to time in combat. But we have changed specifications Tier VIII and IX vehicles, so it became necessary to also change the characteristics of the AMX 50 Foch (155) so that this tank destroyer would correspond to the general concept of the branch and at the same time retain all distinctive features for which the players love her so much.

In update 9.20, the Foch (155) will become a promotional vehicle, and a new AMX 50 Foch B tank destroyer will be added to the tenth tier. a 120-mm gun equipped with a six-round magazine was installed. Each of them is capable of dealing 400 damage. In addition, at new car the armor of the sides and forehead of the hull will be strengthened. Due to design features, the AMX 50 Foch (155) had poor angles vertical aiming, which negatively affected its combat effectiveness. We've improved these settings to allow players to take advantage of terrain folds when playing this vehicle.

Some technical aspects of the AMX 50 Foch (155) translation:

What will happen to the combat performance of the AMX 50 Foch (155)?
We have improved the parameters of the vehicle in accordance with the characteristics of the new Tier X tank destroyer (with the exception of armament - the vehicle is still equipped with a 155-mm gun with a magazine-loading system): improved armor on the sides and front of the hull, as well as vertical aiming angles.

How can I get AMX 50 Foch B and AMX 50 Foch (155)?
If you previously researched and bought the AMX 50 Foch (155), the car will remain in the Garage, and it will become promotional. In addition, you will receive a new AMX 50 Foch B tank destroyer.

If you've already researched the car but haven't bought it yet, hurry up and do so before the release of Update 9.20.

If you haven't researched this tank destroyer yet, you should hurry, because after the release of the update, the AMX 50 Foch (155) will be withdrawn from sale.

What is left for players on the AMX 50 Foch (155)?
Players keep the current combat statistics for the vehicle, experience earned, achievements, medals and distinguishing marks.

What is being transferred to the new AMX 50 Foch B tank destroyer?
All elements appearance(camouflage, emblems and inscriptions) are transferred to the AMX 50 Foch B, taking into account the period for which this or that element was purchased. The crew of the AMX 50 Foch (155) is automatically retrained to the AMX 50 Foch B. Since the AMX 50 Foch (155) is a promotional vehicle, you can transfer crew from any other French tank destroyer to it.

What will happen to the existing ammunition and installed equipment?
Existing ammunition will be decommissioned, and the account will be credited with its full cost in credits as a refund. The equipment will be dismantled and sent to the Warehouse. You can install it on any other machine.

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