3.24 maximum speed limit. When does the speed limit sign end?
The sign "Speed Limit" must be known to every person who wants to become a driver. In general, this topic is very important. Anyone who wants to drive should learn it. After all, it is not without reason that there are those that prescribe the observance of a certain speed limit, are often found on the roads, so you should learn them. However, first things first.
What needs to be learned
First of all, you need to remember that the maximum allowed speed in Russian Federation is 130 kilometers per hour. But not everywhere. This maximum is allowed only on motorways. And these sections of the road themselves are very rare. And they always have a pointer marked "130 km / h".
On country roads, you can drive at a maximum speed of 90 km/h. Exceeding, of course, is not desirable. This is clearly made clear by road signs with comments. Within the city limits, it is allowed to move at a speed of 60 kilometers per hour. And this is the maximum. However, it is not enough to know only these nuances. In fact important points much more, and here it is worth talking about them in more detail.
Maximum
3.24 is the first and most important sign. The speed limit, and the maximum, that's what he prescribes. And this pointer, for sure, is familiar to everyone. Even to those people who were not going to get rights. It is round, distinguished by a white background and a red "edging". It is categorically with a speed exceeding the number indicated on it. Written 50? This means that it is impossible for the speedometer needle to rise above the 50 km / h mark.
But there is one interesting point that everyone should know about. Sometimes on country roads they put a sign prescribing a speed limit of 40 kilometers per hour maximum. Although usually the number is thirty. At such moments, drivers who pass by simply do not have time to slow down and, so to speak, slow down. And this is used by many traffic police officers, who, as a rule, are on duty there.
In fact, the situation is ambiguous. Why? And because on country roads there should not be signs 3.24, and even more so marked "30 km / h". This can be done, but subject to certain conditions. And they consist in the fact that in front of this sign at a distance of 150 meters there must be a sign of 70 km / h, and then - 50 km / h.
End of restrictions
The "Speed Limit" sign, like all others, cannot be valid throughout the entire road. Naturally, there is also a "cancel" pointer. It is known under the code 3.25. And this pointer declares the end of the constraint. It is round, in a black frame, on a white background there is a number crossed out with several lines.
Still sometimes put other pointers. This is allowed by numerous, and sometimes, to indicate the zone of any restrictions (including the maximum speed limit), they use a sign known as code 3.31 - a white circle in a black border, which is crossed out by several thin lines.
There is also the so-called addition to the speed limit. Usually this is a plate 8.2.1., which defines the coverage area. It shows the length and arrows. If, for example, there is a sign "maximum speed of 50 km / h" and under it a sign on which the number 200 is indicated, then this means that for two hundred meters the driver should not exceed 50 km / h. After the distance has been covered, you can return to normal speed mode.
Hazardous area
It is logical to assume that the "Speed Limit" sign is placed where the dangerous section begins. As you know, you need to move with extreme caution. And dangers can be of any nature.
But how to determine the beginning and end of such a section? Visually. If it is indicated that for three kilometers it is necessary to move at a speed of 40 km / h and the driver sees that there are pits, potholes on his way, the road is broken, then you need to focus on your feelings. As soon as he feels that the roadway has become smooth again, you can already return to normal speed.
And there are such devices - odometers. it automotive device, which measures the mileage and distance traveled by the car. After the zone of validity of the "Speed Limit" sign has begun, it is worth taking a look at the odometer and calculating the readings that should be displayed on it upon completion of the dangerous section.
Crossroads and settlements
It is worth knowing that the area of validity of the "Speed Limit" sign is determined not only by signs on which there are indications of meters and kilometers. Also, the sign, known as number 3.24, stops working after the driver enters the intersection. However, it is worth remembering the fact that the exit from any adjacent territory or from the intersection (with forest or field roads) is not considered as such. And since such places are not equated with intersections, then the action of the signs is not canceled.
And finally, settlements. Pointer 3.24 can be canceled by signs 5.23.2 and 5.23.1. This is the beginning of the village. The signs look like oblong rectangular plates, white background and black edging. They can contain either the name of the city in black, or a silhouette of the settlement is drawn.
Another cancellation is given by signs 5.24.1 and 5.24.2. This is the end of the village. They look exactly the same as the previous two, only they are also crossed out with a red thick line. There is also a pointer 5.25. Blue background, white letters, crossed out with a red line - this is also the end of the settlement. Accordingly, it is not separated from the group of road signs that cancel a certain speed limit.
And the last pointer is 5.25. This is the beginning of the settlement. It does not cancel anything, on the contrary, it calls for moving at a maximum speed of 60 km / h. It looks like this: a blue background, white letters with the name of the city.
Everyone knows that the groups of road signs are numerous. So, in addition to prohibiting, there are also recommended ones. Index 6.2 refers to these. This That is, the one that should be observed on a particular road section. The coverage area also lasts until the first intersection.
The shape of such signs is square, with rounded corners. It is characterized by a blue background and white numbers. It should be noted that these signs do not oblige motorists to anything. To move at the specified speed or not is up to the driver to decide. But still, the pointer was put there for good reason, so you should think about it.
Permissible minimum
It may seem strange to many, but there are signs that prescribe compliance with not only the declared maximum, but also the minimum. They are round and blue with white numbers inside. And drivers are allowed to move either at the declared speed, or more. That is, if the number "60" is visible on the sign, then you need to drive at least 60 km / h, but no less.
And the end of the zone in which this indicator operates is usually indicated by the sign 4.7. The same round blue sign with a white number, only crossed out with a red line. This means that the declared minimum is canceled, and it can not be observed.
It is interesting that if there is a sign 4.6 on the road section (that is, a minimum speed indicator), then it will not work to stop the car at the traffic police service, only if the driver has violated the rules.
Fines for speeding
The speed limit on the bridge, highways, highways is indicated for a reason. And if you break the rules, you can earn a fine. So, for example, for an hour (but not more!) You will have to pay 500 rubles. Now, as you know, if a motorist pays in the near future, he is given a 50% discount.
If the motorist was moving at a speed of 60-80 km / h exceeding the norm, then you will have to pay 2000-2500 rubles. Or he can be deprived of a driver's license for 4-6 months. It depends on the decision of the traffic police. If the case is taken to court, then it can be challenged, as violators often do, if it is easier for them to pay the specified amount than to remain without rights.
If the excess was more than 80 km / h, then you will have to say goodbye to either five thousand, or with the rights for six months. But when a person violates this prescription again, he may be deprived of the opportunity to drive the vehicle for a year.
Other fines
Do not think that only speeding can be fined. There is also a penalty for moving too slowly. If the markup or sign prescribes to move at the specified minimum speed, but the driver ignored this, a fine of 500 rubles is due. But this violation is not punished as seriously as in the previous described situation.
It is worth being more focused on the roads, it is not for nothing that they are already doing yellow signs speed limits, which further attract attention.
There is no need to exceed the speed to astronomical indicators, because the point is not even a fine, but the fact that the car is a vehicle of increased danger. And by "putting" the speedometer needle at 110, 130, 150 and above, a person puts the lives of many people at risk: himself, passengers, pedestrians, other drivers. So think about whether it's worth the hassle.
The speed limit sign is valid until the nearest intersection, unless there are other signs regulating the speed. At the same time, after the cancellation of the speed limit sign, we do not forget about the value of the maximum speeds in the city, village and on the highway.
Sign Restriction top speed" is the sign 3.24.
Quote from the traffic rules of the Russian Federation, Appendix 1:
Thus, the effect of sign 3.24 extends from the place where the sign was installed, forward in the direction of travel, to one of these places:
1) if there is an intersection - to the nearest intersection. True, if there is an intersection without priority signs with a field, forest or secondary road, then in such places the effect of the sign 3.24 does not stop. But note that the road must be either field, or forest, or secondary.
2) in a populated area in the absence of an intersection - up to road sign 5.24.1 or 5.24.2;
3) outside the settlement in the absence of an intersection - to the road sign 5.23.1 or 5.23.2.
And finally, if there is sign 3.25 “End of the maximum speed limit zone” on the road, or sign 3.31 “End of the zone of all restrictions”, or sign 3.24 with a different value of the maximum allowed speed - sign 3.24 will be valid until one of these three signs.
The maximum speed limit prohibition sign may be valid until the next speed limit cancellation road sign or until the next prohibition sign with a different numerical speed indication, for example, it was 70, then 50 or 40. In the absence of all cancellation signs, the speed limit prohibition sign is valid until designated intersection, and in the settlement without marked intersections - to the end of the village.
The mandatory minimum speed limit sign (on a blue background) is also valid until the next cancellation sign "End of minimum speed limit zone". There is also a general sign “End of the zone of all restrictions”, it can also relate to the cancellation of the speed limit sign.
SDA: Prohibition road sign 3.24 Maximum speed limit in the Rules of the road
SDA P1 3.24, 3.25
forbidding road sign 3.24 The maximum speed limit imposes a ban on driving at a speed in km/h exceeding that indicated on the sign.
Scope of the prohibition road sign 3.24 The maximum speed limit extends from the location of the sign to the nearest intersection behind it, and in built-up areas, if there is no intersection, it extends to the end of the built-up area. The action of the sign is not interrupted at the places of exit from the territories adjacent to the road and at the places of intersection or junction with field, forest and other secondary roads, in front of which the corresponding signs are not installed.
The effect of the prohibition road sign 3.24 The maximum speed limit set before locality, indicated by road sign 5.23.1 or 5.23.2, extends up to this sign.
Road signs 5.23.1 and 5.23.2 The beginning of the settlement from Appendix 1 to the SDA to which the speed limit sign is valid
For prohibition road sign 3.24 the zone of action of the sign can be reduced by installing at the end of the zone of its action a road sign 3.25 End of the maximum speed limit zone or by using plate 8.2.1.
The coverage area of road sign 3.24 can be reduced by placing a prohibition road sign 3.24 Maximum speed limit with a different maximum speed.
Road sign for additional information Plate 8.2.1 Validity zone for indicating a distance of 100 meters - the zone of validity of the prohibition road sign
Speed limit sign - sign coverage area
One of the most common traffic violations, which is recorded daily on the roads of our country, is considered to be speeding. It is also often the main cause of road traffic accidents, often accompanied by serious material damage and loss of life. The obvious consequences of such behavior of drivers who easily violate the speed limit are faced daily by all participants. traffic.
Despite the fact that the speed limit sign is not installed just like that, but only on potentially dangerous and difficult sections of roads, drivers are in no hurry to remove their foot from the gas pedal after crossing it. Moreover, many car owners have long forgotten that when driving in urban areas, the maximum speed is initially limited, and it is strictly forbidden to drive faster than 60 km / h. If road conditions require otherwise, then it can be further reduced by installing appropriate signs that indicate the specific permitted value for a particular section.
Features of installing a sign Speed limit
Like any other, the Maximum speed limit sign is not set on the road just like that. As a rule, he says that a difficult turn awaits the driver ahead, a significant narrowing of the roadway, difficult visibility in relation to oncoming traffic, etc. In addition, the Speed limit sign is often located near kindergartens, schools, and in this In this case, the speed dropped by the driver in time can save the life of a child who suddenly jumped onto the road in the wrong place.
Any difficulties on the part of the driver when interpreting this sign are simply unthinkable - the sign is extremely clear, and even people who do not have rights understand its meaning very well. On a white background, equipped with a red border, the value of the maximum permissible speed, which is allowed on this section of the road, is indicated. If the speed limit sign is located on a yellow background, this indicates its temporary purpose, but at the same time, if it contradicts the signs established on a permanent basis, it is necessary to be guided in further movement by the temporary indicator.
How long does it take to comply with the speed limit
After crossing the established sign with the designated restriction, a number of car owners find it difficult to determine the area where this restriction can no longer be observed. Finding a place where you can increase the current speed of the car is not so difficult.
- The most obvious sign that indicates the ability to press the gas pedal is the sign End of the zone of all restrictions. In cities, these are quite rare.
- In the conditions of the city, you can often see the sign 3.25, which removes a certain previously indicated restriction. Immediately after crossing it, the speed can be increased to the "urban" value.
- If a sign indicating the specific distance at which the restriction is in force is located under the indicator limiting the maximum speed, immediately after passing this segment, it can be increased. The distance is easy to determine from the odometer readings - the main thing is to fix its readings at the moment of crossing the speed limit sign. But do not rush to accelerate, because it is better to drive an extra hundred meters a little slower than to get a fine for exceeding.
- The previous restriction is removed if there is another sign on the road with a different value of the permissible speed.
- The action of the indicator, which limits the maximum permissible speed, automatically ends if there is an intersection in the path of the car. After crossing it, the maximum speed limit sign is not mandatory, and if the speed limit after crossing the roads still has its own characteristics, another sign must be installed.
- The restriction is removed when leaving the city where such a sign was installed. However, this only works if there is a corresponding sign on the road, namely “End of settlement”. If it is absent, the restriction may extend its effect to several tens of kilometers, until the driver meets a sign with other requirements.
It is worth noting that at the entrance to a city or village, the zone of validity of the speed limit sign, which is located in front of it, does not lose its relevance, and the requirements for observing the speed limit remain valid.
Responsibility for exceeding
Since the speed limit road sign is never set just like that, but only in dangerous areas, or where the movement of vehicles at high speed can lead to human casualties, the punishment for ignoring its requirements is quite severe. This is due to the serious consequences of violating the speed limit, which can be encountered almost daily on our roads. Therefore, the punishment for such a violation is tangible - it is quite possible to receive not only an impressive fine, but also lose the right to drive a vehicle for a period of one year.
The final amount of the fine this species violations can vary, and depends on a number of points, for example:
- the specific location of the road where the offense was committed, as well as its category;
- type and characteristics vehicle-violator of the high-speed mode;
- type of tasks performed by the vehicle - transportation of hazardous substances, people, towing.
It is worth noting that despite the fact that the maximum speed value is prescribed in the traffic rules, for various kinds highways can be increased by regions independently. In this case, appropriate signs are installed. About such a measure in one of the regions is described in the video:
Questions of traffic rules by sign Maximum speed limit
Which of the following signs apply only to the period of time when the road surface is wet?
Only the combination of signs "A" - 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" with a sign 8.16 "Wet surface", indicating that the sign applies to the period when the roadway surface is wet - is the correct answer. Sign "B" - 1.18 "Emission of gravel" - warns of a section of the road where gravel, crushed stone and the like can be ejected from under the wheels of vehicles. Sign "B" - 1.15 "Slippery road" - warns of a road section with increased slipperiness of the roadway. The reason for this may be snowfall, icing, spillage of bitumen during road works, etc. ("Road Signs").
This road sign:
- Recommends driving at a speed of 40 km/h
- Requires driving at a speed of at least 40 km/h
- Prohibits driving at speeds over 40 km/h
Sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" is a common sign on our roads. ("Road signs"). It is forbidden to drive at a speed (km/h) exceeding that indicated on the sign. For exceeding the speed limit over +20 km / h, a punishment follows - a fine; over +60 km/h - a fine or deprivation of rights.
Action area:
1 - From the installation site to the nearest intersection, and in the settlement in the absence of an intersection - to the end of the n.p.
2- The coverage area may be limited by plate 8.2.1
"Zone of action".
3 - Up to the same sign with a different speed value.
4 - Before the sign 5.23.1 or 5.23.2 "Beginning of the settlement" with a white background.
5 - Up to sign 3.25 "End of speed limit zone".
6 - Up to sign 3.31 "End of the zone of all restrictions." ("Road signs").
The requirements of which signs come into force directly in the place where they are installed?
The action of the prohibition sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" extends from the installation site to the nearest intersection, and in the absence of an intersection - to the end of the settlement ("B"). The coverage area may be limited, for example, by the plate 8.2.1 “Action area” (“A”). The sign is valid 100m from its place of installation. Plate 8.1.1 under the sign ("B") "Distance to the object" indicates the distance from the sign to the place where it begins to operate. ("Road signs").
Which signs apply only to the nearest intersection in the direction of travel?
The effect of the signs: B - 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" and D - 3.28 "Parking is prohibited" extends to the nearest intersection behind it, and in built-up areas in the absence of an intersection - to the end of the built-up area. The effect of the signs: A - 5.31 "Zone with a maximum speed limit" and B - "Zone with a restriction on parking" is canceled by signs corresponding only to them 5.32 "End of a zone with a maximum speed limit" and 5.28 "End of a zone with a restriction on parking" ("Road signs ").
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3.24 Maximum speed limit
It is forbidden to drive at a speed (km/h) exceeding that indicated on the sign. The coverage area of signs extends from the place where the sign is installed to the nearest intersection behind it, and in populated areas, if there is no intersection, to the end of the populated area. The action of the signs is not interrupted at the places of exit from the territories adjacent to the road and at the places of intersection (adjacency) with field, forest and other secondary roads, in front of which the corresponding signs are not installed. The effect of the sign 3.24, installed in front of the settlement, indicated by the sign 5.23.1 or 5.23.2, extends to this sign. The zone of action of signs can be reduced by placing sign 3.25 (End of the maximum speed limit zone) at the end of their zone of action or by using plate 8.2.1. Sign 3.24 coverage area can be reduced by placing sign 3.24 with a different maximum speed
Scheme of one of the routes
Olga (Vladivostok)
Sign 120 may already occur due to changes in the rules (notes to clause 10.3)
The sign "130" is at least on the M4.
Thanks for the answer, I know this, I wanted to know something else ... It turns out that our legislation does not care about the fact that with a wind speed of 19 m / s, that is, 68 km / h, the speed on the electronic scoreboard is 110 km / h.
There are cars that press even harder against the road with an increase in speed, and for them a serious gust of wind is already when heavier cars will drop. You won’t get enough of the scoreboard for all types of cars, and there are no corresponding signs. For example, sports cars and SUVs belong to the same class of passenger cars, and the reaction to a gust of wind is fundamentally different.
Hello. The speed limit on the Ring Road is 110 km/h. The road services were negligent in their work of cleaning the road surface and indicated the speed of 70 km / h on electronic scoreboards. At the same time, they said that they would be fined immediately after exceeding the speed limit of 110 km/h. However, according to the law, exceeding the permitted speed by 20 km / h or less is not punishable by a fine. How competent is the decision of the traffic police to punish for exceeding up to 20 km / h?
Yuri, by scoreboard do you mean signs with changeable images?
If so, please attach a diagram of the location of the scoreboard and road signs (limiting speed) along your route.
Unfortunately I don't have a diagram. These are information boards above the Ring Road, which indicate the speed and various notifications such as road repair, slippery road.
Yuri, do the values on the scoreboard contradict the usual road signs?
Of course, they contradict - according to the Ring Road, the allowed speed is 110 km / h.
Yuri, after each "110" sign you can drive at a speed of 110 km/h. You can be fined at 130 km/h.
After each "70" board you can drive at a speed of 70 km/h. You can be fined at 90 km/h.
The scoreboard is essentially the same signs. Each next sign (board) cancels the action of the previous one.
Good luck on the roads!
Thank you, but there are no 110 km/h signs on the Ring Road. I doubt, however, that the electronic signs over the Ring Road have legal force. I think that these are still informational values \u200b\u200band recommend this speed, and do not oblige.
Thank you, but there are no 110 km/h signs on the Ring Road.
And why then do you think that it is possible to move at that speed there?
Yuri
Good luck on the roads!
Yuri, in this case, the maximum speed is set by the display. I don’t think these signs are fake, the traffic police would not mess with such people.
Those. the board is similar to sign 3.24 and sets the maximum speed. If you exceed it by 20 km / h or more, you can get a fine.
Good luck on the roads!
wowick, in this case the following logical chain is used.
1. Images are not used in the text of the rules of the road. The text of the document is simply text with numbers and descriptions of the characters. The published texts of the rules contain signs to make it easier for drivers to understand the rules.
2. At the beginning of Appendix 1 there is the following sentence:
The numbering of road signs corresponds to GOST R 52290-2004.
Those. a description of the images of signs can be found in this GOST.
3. GOST itself contains the following paragraph:
5.2.1. Signs are made using retroreflective materials, with internal lighting, with external lighting. black and white picture elements gray colors signs should not have a retroreflective effect.
It is allowed to produce signs with light indication with designations of inscriptions and symbols in matrix form. In this case, it is allowed to replace black inscriptions and symbols with white or yellow, and the white background of the signs - to black in cases where this does not lead to their erroneous perception. Replacing the red color of the background, symbol and border of signs and sizes of their images is not allowed.
So the scoreboard signs are also road signs.
Good luck on the roads!
Based on all of the above, I propose the other extreme: - so that people on the roads do not violate the speed limit, make cars moving at a speed of 60 km / h and the problem of speeding will be solved. The rest of the vehicles with a higher speed in the country to ban forever. Thus, we will solve the problem with speed on the roads. But then there will be nothing to rob people for? yes gentlemen in power)
This was already many years ago (in the last century). Everything worked. And in this century, the speed limit has increased, and the roads have become worse than in the last century.
I think it's better to do it differently. Cars exceeding 60 km/h are prohibited from driving on roads, but only on sports tracks.
Hello.
What relevant signs are mentioned in the note to paragraph 10.2? If about sign 3.24, which is used as an example at the beginning of your article, then in my subjective opinion this is not correct, because sign 3.24 is prohibitive, here is an example: on a section of the road we see sign 3.24 (90), this sign prohibits exceeding the speed indicated on the sign, which means that the speed above that indicated on the sign 3.24 was allowed earlier. You see, you can't ban something that's not allowed.
A new sign is needed, used separately or in conjunction with signs 5.1 and 5.3, and put in order the 10th section, otherwise it turns out that: The speed of movement on the motorway is regulated by the clause on the speed of movement OUTSIDE the settlement, and the note of clause 10.2 regulates the speed of movement IN THE SETTLEMENT at the speed set for the motorway, but this speed is allowed on the motorway OUTSIDE of the settlement.
I rented a car for 5 days, I returned it in a short time. 3 days after the delivery, the owner of the car asked me to pay a fine for speeding fixed by technical means (the camera took a picture). I decided to act according to my conscience and was going to pay. And again a complaint was received that another fine had come, in it the amount was already 2000 rubles for a repeated offense. I looked at the fines and it turned out that before the first fine I received, the owner of the car had 2 more unpaid fines also for exceeding, and the fine for repeating "me" issued to me was already the fourth in a week. But the previous 2 are not mine! How to arrive in the given situation???
Ruslan, fines for violations that you have committed must be paid. Fines for other periods should not be paid, let the owner of the car deal with them.
Good luck on the roads!
I have this question. The car is registered to me. The first time speeding was my wife, and the second time (within a year) already me and what to do? How to be?
Comply with traffic rules. Or not get caught.and what to do? How to be?
Ildar, the fine is imposed on the owner of the vehicle. If, after the first violation, the wife did not contact the traffic police to "rewrite" the fine for herself, then both fines are imposed on you. In the second case, punishment will be imposed for repeated violation of the rules.
Good luck on the roads!
Eugene-189
Question - I exceeded the speed limit in the city by 20-40 km. After 4 months, a bailiff 500 rubles was taken from my card and passbook. The most interesting thing is that I did not receive a letter and did not know anything at all. The violation was recorded on camera (tripod). You might be better off with 100% payment.
Evgeniy, I'm not going to collect fines from car owners, so it's absolutely not profitable for me.
Better yet, just follow the rules of the road. As practice shows, it is not difficult at all.
Good luck on the roads!
Evgenia-24
Maxim, hello!
2 days ago I immediately received 2 fines for speeding (I was driving within the city at a speed of 88-90 km / h), and it turned out that the cameras (tripods) recorded me on the same day and almost in the same place (the time difference in the photo is 1.5 minutes).
The question is: is it legal to demand 2 fines from me for the same violation, if Article 4.1 of the Code of Administrative Offenses says that "No one can bear administrative responsibility twice for the same administrative offense."
Article 4.1 of the Code of Administrative Offenses says that "No one can be held administratively liable twice for the same administrative offense."
Evgenia-24, why do you think that speeding with an interval of 1.5 minutes is one violation?
Evgeniya, hello.
Specify whether the fines came from one camera or from different ones? Did you pass them 1 time or 2?
I increased the speed in the city by 40 km / h, but the owner of the car is the father. He received an SMS, they say so and so, pay. There are no questions, I'll pay, because my cant. BUT! If during this week that I went and did not know about the fine, I hit more fines, then what will be the consequences for my father? Suppose (roughly speaking) I increased the speed there 2 more times by the same 40 km / h. Repeat fines (2000-2500)? Or is it deprivation?
Suppose (roughly speaking) I increased the speed there 2 more times by the same 40 km / h.
In order not to be deprived during the second one - do not exceed more than 60 km / h (if the camera captures - only a fine of 5 tr). Repeated from 40 to 60 costs 2 - 2.5 tr.
Pauline, if at least one of the violations is speeding by 60 km / h or more, then warn the father about this. The fact is that if he repeatedly exceeds the speed limit by 60 km / h or more and the violation is recorded by employees (not cameras), then he will be deprived of his rights.
Good luck on the roads!
And in certain cases, its scope.
Prohibition signs introduce or cancel certain traffic restrictions.
3.24 "Maximum speed limit". It is forbidden to drive at a speed (km/h) exceeding that indicated on the sign.
5.4.22
Sign 3.24 with a plate 8.2.1 in front of an artificial unevenness is installed together with sign 5.20 on one support. The speed value indicated on the sign must correspond to the design of the roughness.
The name and description of sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" indicates that it is forbidden to exceed the speed indicated on the sign. For exceeding the maximum speed indicated on the sign, liability is provided under Article 12.9 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation.
Part 2. Exceeding the established speed of the vehicle by more than 20, but not more than 40 kilometers per hour.
Punishment: an administrative fine in the amount of five hundred rubles.Part 3. Exceeding the established speed of the vehicle by more than 40, but not more than 60 kilometers per hour.
Punishment: an administrative fine in the amount of one thousand to one thousand five hundred roubles.Part 4. Exceeding the established speed of the vehicle by more than 60, but not more than 80 kilometers per hour.
Punishment: an administrative fine in the amount of two thousand to two thousand five hundred rubles or deprivation of the right to drive transport vehicles for a period of four to six months.Part 5. Exceeding the established speed of the vehicle by more than 80 kilometers per hour.
Punishment: an administrative fine in the amount of five thousand rubles or deprivation of the right to drive vehicles for a period of six months.
As you can see, the punishment for exceeding the maximum speed is quite serious. Therefore, we need to deal with the area of \u200b\u200bthe prohibition sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" in order to avoid speeding, as it is prohibited by the Rules.
Let's start with the fact that the speed limits in certain road conditions and for different categories of vehicles may differ.
Situation 1.
Sign 3.24 “Maximum speed limit” sets a speed limit of 70 km / h, but this does not mean that when towing a power-driven vehicle, you can move at such a speed, since the maximum speed is set by the Rules to be no more than 50 km / h.
10.4. Vehicles towing power-driven vehicles are allowed to move at a speed not exceeding 50 km/h.
Situation 2.
On the road outside the settlement, sign 3.24 “Maximum speed limit” sets a speed limit of 100 km / h, but when driving a small bus, it is allowed to move at a maximum speed of no more than 90 km / h.
10.3. Outside built-up areas, traffic is allowed:
motorcycles, cars and trucks with a maximum authorized weight of not more than 3.5 tons on motorways - at a speed of no more than 110 km/h, on other roads - no more than 90 km/h;
intercity and small-seat buses on all roads - no more than 90 km / h;
other buses, passenger cars when towing a trailer, trucks with a maximum permissible weight of more than 3.5 tons on motorways - no more than 90 km/h, on other roads - no more than 70 km/h;
trucks carrying people in the back - no more than 60 km / h;
vehicles carrying out organized transportation of groups of children - no more than 60 km / h.
Traffic sign action 3.24 ( example in the picture), in accordance with the Rules, extends from the installation site to the nearest intersection ( exits from adjacent territories do not cancel the validity of signs) or the end of the settlement ( in the absence of intersections).
If sign 3.24 is installed in front of a built-up area, then it is valid until signs 5.23.1 "Beginning of a built-up area" or 5.23.2 "Starting of a built-up area".
The coverage area of signs 3.16, 3.20, 3.22, 3.24, 3.26 -3.30 extends from the place where the sign is installed to the nearest intersection behind it, and in populated areas in the absence of an intersection - to the end of the populated area. The action of the signs is not interrupted at the places of exit from the territories adjacent to the road and at the places of intersection (adjacency) with field, forest and other secondary roads, in front of which the corresponding signs are not installed.
The effect of the sign 3.24, installed in front of the settlement, indicated by the sign 5.23.1 or 5.23.2, extends to this sign.
It is necessary to remember the following that intersections with minor roads not marked with priority signs do not cancel the effect of the sign 3.24 (as well as the effect of prohibition signs 3.16, 3.20, 3.22, 3.26 -3.30).
for signs 3.20, 3.22, 3.24 by installing signs 3.21, 3.23, 3.25 at the end of their coverage zone, respectively, or by using plate 8.2.1. Sign 3.24 coverage area can be reduced by setting sign 3.24 with a different maximum speed;
It follows from the definition that the speed limit introduced by the corresponding prohibition sign 3.24 can be canceled by the subsequent installation of the sign 3.25 “End of the maximum speed limit zone”. After that, the speeds established by the Rules apply ( In settlements, vehicles are allowed to move at a speed of no more than 60 km/h, and in residential areas and in yard areas no more than 20 km/h).
8.2.1 "Zone of action". Indicates the length of the dangerous section of the road marked with warning signs, or zone of prohibition signs, as well as signs 5.16, 6.2 and 6.4.
In this case, the length of the section with the specified maximum speed limit will be equal to the value indicated on the plate 8.2.1 “Area of coverage”.
In the image, sign 3.24 with a speed limit value of 70 km/h and plate 8.2.1 indicating the length of the section, indicates that the next 800 meters must be driven at a speed of 70 km/h, after the end of this section, the maximum speed allowed for movement outside settlement 90 km/h ( do not forget, the speed of movement depends on the type of vehicle and other conditions in accordance with the Rules).
The last thing that can reduce the zone of the introduced speed limit, set by sign 3.24, is the installation of sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" with a different maximum speed. This means that after setting sign 3.24 with a different speed value, the previously set maximum speed limits are no longer valid. Since the installed sign with a different speed value, reduced the coverage area earlier established mark.
In the picture, the first speed limit is 40 km/h, followed by 20 km/h, which overrides the previous maximum speed. After the expiration of the zone of effect of the sign 20 km / h (here valid until the next intersection), the maximum speed permitted by the Rules will be 60 km/h ( in the locality).
Cases of joint application of the sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" with other signs and plates sometimes cause incorrect installation of signs and cannot be correctly interpreted in accordance with the Rules of the Road.
Example 1
If you try to read these signs correctly, you get the following. After 50-100 meters artificial unevenness (approx. warning sign 5.20 "Artificial unevenness"), the first speed limit is 40 km/h, the start of action after 150 meters. Attention, after about 70-80 meters sign 3.24 is set with a maximum speed limit of 20 km / h, which, in accordance with the Rules, cancels the effect of the previous set sign ( 40 km/h). As you can see, not quite logical installation of signs.
Although, here we observe rather negligence when installing signs, if the sign 8.2.1 was placed under the warning sign, everything would be in its place. After 150 meters, an artificial unevenness, a speed limit of 40 km/h, then a 20 km/h limit, which, in the absence of signs canceling the limit, is valid until the nearest intersection.
Example 2
At the beginning of the section, the speed limit is 40 km/h, then sign 3.24 with a value of 20 km/h ( pictured above), which overrides the previous constraint ( reduction of coverage area) speed mode. To cancel the speed limit of 20 km / h, it would be more correct to install sign 3.25 “End of the maximum speed limit zone” indicating the value of 20 km / h.
Here we observe the abolition of the speed limit, sign 3.25 with a value of 40 km / h. Although, the limitation 40 km/h) was already taken down early by installing a new sign indicating a maximum speed of 20 km/h. But in any case, sign 3.25 cancels the maximum speed limit and then it is allowed to drive at the maximum speed for the settlement ( equal to 60 kilometers per hour).
And the last thing I want to dwell on is when a sign 8.2.1 is used with the sign 3.24 indicating the length of the zone exceeding the distance to the intersection (example. a sign 3.24 with a value of 40 km/h is installed, together with a sign 8.2.1, which indicates the length of the maximum speed limit zone of 7 km, after 350 meters the intersection). traffic police inspectors stop drivers after an intersection), in some cases, try to hold accountable for exceeding the maximum speed limit introduced before the intersection. Although the intersection in this case has already canceled the previously introduced speed limit. And using plate 8.2.1 in accordance with GOST R 52289-2004, it is only allowed to reduce the area of effect of the prohibition sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit".
GOST R 52289-2004. Technical means of organizing traffic. Rules for the use of road signs, markings, traffic lights, road barriers and guides (with Amendments No. 1, 2).
5.9.5 Plate 8.2.1 "Scope" is used:
- with signs 1.12.1-1.19, 1.23, 1.25-1.33 to indicate the length of the dangerous section, if there is a repeated sign, a plate is installed under it;
- with signs 3.16, 3.20, 3.22, 3.24, 3.26 to indicate the area of the sign. The zone of action of the sign indicated on the plate must not exceed the zone established for these signs according to 5.4.31;
These signs must be re-installed after the end of the settlement or immediately after the intersection, if necessary, to maintain the restrictions imposed by the sign installed respectively before the intersection or the end of the settlement.
If necessary, the zone of action of signs can be reduced:
- for signs 3.16 and 3.26 - by using plate 8.2.1;
- for signs 3.20, 3.22, 3.24 - by installing signs 3.21, 3.23 or 3.25 (which is preferable) at the end of their coverage area, respectively, or using plate 8.2.1.
Sign 3.24 coverage area can be reduced by setting sign 3.24 with a different maximum speed.
From this, the conclusion is as follows, if with the sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit", the plate 8.2.1 "Area of validity" is applied, indicating the length of the speed limit zone, greater than the distance to the nearest intersection, then the zone of validity of the sign 3.24 will end at the intersection, if after the intersection the sign is not re-installed with the corresponding indication of the maximum speed, in order to maintain the speed limit introduced before the intersection.
As always, when writing a review, I tried to rely on the Rules of the Road and GOSTs. If you have a different opinion on the use of sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" or have any questions, please write.
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Sergei Milyutin
Victor, hello.
The scope of the sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" does not depend on the place of application.
The coverage area of signs 3.24 extends from the place where the sign is installed to the nearest intersection behind it, and in populated areas, if there is no intersection, to the end of the populated area. The action of the signs is not interrupted at the places of exit from the territories adjacent to the road and at the places of intersection (adjacency) with field, forest and other secondary roads, in front of which the corresponding signs are not installed.
It is necessary to clarify what these exits are. If they are marked with signs 5.21 and 5.22, then they are entrances ( trips) to the residential area.
Since, according to the Rules, when leaving a residential area, it is necessary to give way to other road users, such an intersection of carriageways will not be considered an intersection of equivalent roads.
17.3. When leaving a residential area, drivers must give way to other road users.
And the action of the sign 3.24 is not interrupted at the intersections ( adjoining) with other minor roads ( exit from the residential area can be attributed to such roads), before which not installed corresponding signs.
If, however, signs 5.21 and 5.22 are absent, then most likely we can talk about exits from the residential area, and according to the definitions of the adjacent territory and the intersection, the exits from the residential area are not intersections. Accordingly, in this case, the effect of sign 3.24 does not stop.
Sergei Milyutin
Aidar, hello.
After the intersection, as follows from the Rules, the effect of the sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" ends.
The area of validity of signs 3.16, 3.20, 3.22, 3.24, 3.26 - 3.30 extends from the place where the sign is installed to the nearest intersection behind it, and in settlements in the absence of an intersection - to the end of the settlement. The action of the signs is not interrupted at the places of exit from the territories adjacent to the road and at the places of intersection (adjacency) with field, forest and other secondary roads, in front of which the corresponding signs are not installed.
In your case, priority signs 2.3.2 - 2.3.7 "Adjacency of a secondary road" were also installed, which, as follows from GOST R 52289-2004, are installed outside settlements in front of all intersections on roads marked with sign 2.1.
5.3.4 Signs 2.3.1 “Intersection with a secondary road”, 2.3.2-2.3.7 “Adjacent to a secondary road” are installed outside settlements in front of all intersections on roads marked with sign 2.1. Signs are not installed in front of crossroads with a complex layout and in front of crossroads where the main road changes direction. Signs 2.3.4-2.3.7 must be installed if the angle between the axes of the main and secondary roads is less than 60°.
Outside settlements, signs 2.3.1-2.3.7 are installed at a distance of 150-300 m, in settlements - at a distance of 50-100 m to the intersection. If necessary, it is allowed to install signs 2.3.1-2.3.7 at a different distance, indicated in this case on plate 8.1.1.
In the same GOST R 52289-2004 it is said that in order to maintain the restrictions introduced before the intersection (including sign 3.24), after the intersection, it is necessary to re-install the appropriate traffic signs.
5.4.31 The operation of signs 3.16, 3.20, 3.22, 3.24, 3.26-3.30 extends from the place where the sign is installed to the nearest intersection behind the sign, and in a built-up area, if there is no intersection, to the end of the built-up area. The effect of sign 3.24, installed in front of the settlement, indicated by signs 5.23.1 or 5.23.2, extends to these signs.
These signs must be re-installed after the end of the settlement or immediately after the intersection, if necessary, to maintain the restrictions imposed by the sign installed respectively before the intersection or the end of the settlement.
If the camera recorded speeding exactly on the section of the road after passing the intersection, then you can file a complaint to cancel the decision on administrative offense.
Sergei Milyutin
Dmitry, hello.
Road signs are installed to the right of the carriageway or above it. The signs apply to carriageway at which or above which they are installed.
I didn’t quite understand the question, but you correctly wrote that the effect of the sign 3.24 extends to the intersection ( if there are no other conditions) and applies to the entire width of the carriageway in the direction of travel.
Dmitry
Thanks for the reply, I would like to clarify my question a bit.
The maximum speed limit sign is installed to the right of the roadway,
and the T-junction is on the left and adjacent to the oncoming traffic lane,
Does the speed limit for such an intersection cancel?Sergei Milyutin
Dmitry, hello.
The intersection, regardless of whether the roads intersect or adjoin (it does not matter on which side) at the same level, cancels the effect of the sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit".
Yuri
Good afternoon! Please clarify the situation. Federal highway with lane separation markings. Ahead, away from the highway, there is a settlement. The sign 3.24 70 km/h was installed. Then the sign 5.25 indicating the settlement. Passenger car after sign 3.24 moves at a speed of 86 km/h. until restrictions are lifted. The automatic recording camera recorded the violation. The driver was fined for exceeding the speed limit by 20-40 km/h. Moreover, before the end of the restricted zone, a second camera for automatic detection of oncoming traffic is installed. This camera also recorded the violation and the fine was issued again. Is it legal? Was there a violation AT ALL?
Sergei Milyutin
Yuri, hello.
The effect of the sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit", installed in front of the settlement, applies only to the settlement marked with signs 5.23.1 or 5.23.2. Sign 5.25 "Beginning of settlement" does not cancel the effect of sign 3.24.
Regarding the speed, it is quite possible that at some time the car was moving at a speed of more than 90 km / h.
If I understood correctly, one camera recorded your speeding in the direction of travel, and the other camera recorded your rear license plate. If this happened in the zone of action of one sign 3.24, then you should not be held administratively liable twice for the same administrative offense.
"Code of the Russian Federation on Administrative Offenses" dated December 30, 2001 N 195-FZ
Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation Article 4.1. General rules imposing an administrative penalty
5. No one can bear administrative responsibility twice for the same administrative offense.
Dmitry
Sergey, tell me please.
Sign 40 is installed in the settlement (without signs with a length), after it there is a sign 20 with a sign 50 m. and continues, there are no intersections, there are no signs canceling the 40 sign either.
In other words, does the sign 20 with a sign 50m cancel the effect of the previously installed sign 40 after the end of the area of the sign 20. I.e. I go down to 40 km/h, then 50 m go 20 km/h, and then I have to go 40 or 60?Sergei Milyutin
Dmitry, hello.
The operation of the sign limiting the maximum speed of 40 km/h ended after the installation of sign 3.24 with a value of 20 km/h. This directly follows from the Rules and GOST R 52289-2004:
Sign 3.24 coverage area can be reduced by setting sign 3.24 with a different maximum speed;
Therefore, after the end of the zone of validity of the sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" with a value of 20 km / h ( after 50 meters), you are allowed to continue driving at a speed of 60 km/h.
If the speed limit is up to 20 km/h, taking into account the fact that in built-up areas the maximum permitted speed is set at 60 km/h, a stepped speed limit in increments of no more than 20 km/h is required. For this, they first set a sign with a value of 40 km / h.
GOST R 52289-2004.
If a maximum speed is set in this section, which differs from the maximum speed in the previous section by 20 km / h or more, a stepped speed limit is applied in increments of not more than 20 km / h by sequentially setting signs 3.24 at a distance of 100-150 m from each other .Hello.
A speed limit sign of 20 km / h installed in front of a speed bump, or in front of a pedestrian crossing, according to the rules, is valid until the nearest intersection, But the instructor says that after the pedestrian crossing, you can pick up speed, although there are no cancellation signs, there is no intersection. Who is right? How to be?Sergei Milyutin
Hello Valerie.
Everything is correct, according to the requirements of the Rules:
The coverage area of signs 3.24 extends from the place where the sign is installed to the nearest intersection behind it, and in populated areas, if there is no intersection, to the end of the populated area.
Sign 3.24 coverage area can be reduced by placing sign 3.25 at the end of its coverage zone, respectively, or by using plate 8.2.1.
Sign 3.24 coverage area can be reduced by setting sign 3.24 with a different maximum speed.
Pedestrian crossings and artificial bumps do not cancel the effect of prohibition signs, therefore, it is necessary to move to the intersection or to the sign canceling the introduced speed limit.
Vadim
Good afternoon!
Please let me know if there is a regulation that regulates the installation of a road sign
3.24 "Maximum speed limit" above the carriageway if traffic is carried out in two or more lanes in each direction?Sergei Milyutin
Hello Vadim.
The rules for installing signs, in this case 3.24 "Maximum speed limit", are given in the fifth section of GOST R 52289-2004 (Technical means of organizing traffic).
5.1.5, off the shoulder (if any), except as otherwise provided in this standard, and to the right of or above a cycle or footpath.
The rules for installing duplicate signs are prescribed in paragraph 5.1.6 of the national standard.
5.1.6 On roads with two or more traffic lanes in this direction, signs 1.1, 1.2, 1.20.1-1.20.3, 1.25, 2.4, 2.5, 3.24, installed to the right of the carriageway, are duplicated.
Duplicate signs are installed on the dividing strip.
On roads without a dividing strip, duplicate signs are installed:
- to the left of the carriageway in cases where oncoming traffic is carried out along one or two lanes;
- above the carriageway in cases where oncoming traffic is carried out in three or more lanes.Paragraph 5.1.5 states that the signs are installed to the right of the carriageway or above it.
When installing signs to the right of the carriageway on a road with two or more lanes in this direction, they are duplicated.Nicholas
Hello Sergey, thank you, the article is understandable in general, but if you go into particular, questions arise.
In your opinion, how important is the interpretation of GOST in terms of ETC?
Let me explain the question, in GOST it is written that sign 3.24 is used on dangerous sections of roads (op. turn, narrowing, limited visibility, etc.) What is meant by, etc.? And what is considered dangerous, one accident in 10 years, 3 accidents in a year or a section without an accident, but is it potentially possible??
As far as I can see as a driver, road owners mean by and so on. - the use of signs 3.24 wherever it will bring financial benefits:
- before any intersection;
- before any pedestrian crossing;
- on any straight stretch of road.
In the Moscow region, for example, almost everywhere on the regional roads they made a limit of 50 km / h at the entrance to our checkpoint and hung cameras.
Can the beginning of each settlement be considered a dangerous area? Or is it the arbitrariness of the road owners, what do you think?Sergei Milyutin
Nikolay, hello.
The decision to introduce a maximum speed limit is made not only in accordance with GOST R 52289-2004, but also based on the fact that the design speeds ( depending on traffic intensity, number of accidents) must ensure safe, comfortable movement of vehicles, taking into account the visual orientation of drivers, the location of adjunctions ( intersections) and other factors.
One of important documents defining the main tasks and principles of ensuring road safety is the Federal Law of December 10, 1995 N 196-FZ "On Road Safety".
Article 1 federal law
This Federal Law defines the legal basis for ensuring road safety on the territory of the Russian Federation.
The objectives of this Federal Law are: protecting the life, health and property of citizens, protecting their rights and legitimate interests, as well as protecting the interests of society and the state by preventing traffic accidents and reducing the severity of their consequences.
Article 3. Basic principles for ensuring road safety
The main principles for ensuring road safety are:
the priority of life and health of citizens participating in road traffic over the economic results of economic activity;
the priority of state responsibility for ensuring road safety over the responsibility of citizens participating in road traffic;
observance of the interests of citizens, society and the state in ensuring road safety;
program-targeted approach to activities to ensure road safety.
To limit the maximum speed to 50 km / h, talks have been going on for a long time at the level of the government of the Russian Federation and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Amendments to amend the Rules of the Road are now being considered by the Russian government.
As an example, the European experience is given, which shows that when the permissible maximum speed is reduced, the number of accidents decreases by almost 30%.
According to the developers of the amendments to the SDA, lowering the speed to 50 km/h will reduce the accident rate on the roads and reduce traffic jams (it is easier to distribute evenly moving traffic flows at low speed). And in Moscow and the Moscow Region, apparently, they did not begin to wait for the corresponding amendments, such decisions can now be independently taken by the executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local governments.
Nicholas
Sergey, you answered very competently, just tell me which document provides that: “design speeds (depending on traffic intensity, number of accidents) should ensure safe, comfortable movement of vehicles, taking into account the visual orientation of drivers, the location of adjunctions (crossings) and other factors." This is a quote from your reply to me.
ThanksSergei Milyutin
Nicholas, good evening.
My words are not normative document. This is just my opinion, after reading ODM 218.4.005-2010 (Recommendations for ensuring traffic safety on highways ah), technical regulations Customs Union TR TS 014/2011, Guidelines for the use of road signs and other documents.
Victor
Hello Sergey. You cite Europe as an example. Never, or for a very long time will not appear, in Russia there will be no European traffic rules. 360 hours of training, 180 hours of driving. A European will never drive on our roads without cursing, we drivers need to be retrained to drive according to their rules, their drivers according to our rules. ADAC releases educational films that understand possible reasons typical accidents. In Germany, we have to “think out” a lot. We were not taught this and are not being taught. Their crash-free experience is in no way dependent on speed. It happens in the subconscious. 50 km/h or less, complex intersection 35, residential area 20, city driving on a city road. Cameras track everything. The yellow signal, like ours, is a FORBIDDING signal. But autobahns pass through the city, and they drive along them at completely different speeds. We are introducing the concept of aggressive driving, how can one reason like that if many of our drivers drive at 90, 85 and 80 allowed. concept. cut-off for 80 km. Yes, they have alternative roads and the speed on them is limited by signs, if 80 is crossed out, you can go up to 120. On the autobahn, 120 is crossed out, the speed is limited by the passport data of the car. It would never occur to anyone to go beyond the right lane with a free left. What checkers. Porsche goes 320 and you 120, how long will it take you to catch up. The culprit will be the one who rides in the left lane. We have aggressive driving. Yes, many other things. We want to drive like them, we need to strive, I wrote to you about the confusion in the signs all the time. Road repairs do not limit speed unnecessarily, narrow lanes left lane during road repairs 2.0 m, speed limits according to ordinary signs, drive if you can, the one on the right is always right on the road. Yes, a lot more. Yes, and there is no excess by 20, 40, 60. There is an excess by the value of the instrument error. i.e. for 1 km. Why should we discuss their rules. It's all in the driver's head, as taught, if taught. The traffic police earn money on us, why should they organize the right movement. There are also tripods in Europe, only the police put them on an alternative road in emergency places, where the sign is 80. Can we, if we want, but everyone should want, traffic police, traffic police, drivers, car services that do maintenance and present cars to the police , not the owner, but the service presents the car Everyone who is connected with the organization and operation of vehicles and roads. A car, a means of increased danger. AUTOMOBILE. Our driver is a dangerous element. When the traffic police asks you, you were driving on cruise control, they will make sure that the set speed corresponds to the allowed one and the driver is not to blame, it is the fault of who made the car. The size of wheels and tires is entered in the registration certificate and registration certificate. No need to wait three months for a traffic police decision to start repairs under insurance. If we do like they do, our roads will be empty. The traffic police will lose greedy, illiterate employees, special knowledgeable judges will judge us, almost any accident can be simulated in the program, and the program will determine the culprit itself. The inevitability of punishment, the severity of laws, and another 0.5 ppm. The quality of roads, fuel, the condition of the car, compliance with traffic rules for each direction is responsible, and not one for all, the DRIVER.
Wrote, and thought about whether to publish. I read again the justification for reducing the speed “uniformly moving traffic STREAMS with a low speed (this is their low speed) is easier to distribute, probably, it is not quite right to distribute, to organize. They have flows, we have a chaotic movement. They have 19 cars in 20 seconds of the traffic light, we have 4-5, they have a yellow prohibition, without an appeal, we have, but I drove a yellow one. They don’t need to tighten the steering wheel at the congress, they have a road, we have a rockade since the time of the Second World War. We have a road-skating rink, they have specials. highway coverage. If you do as they do, there will be no RUSSIA.Sergei Milyutin
Victor, hello.
I fully agree with your words. To which we can add 56 hours of practical training in driving schools. At the same time, the Ministry of Internal Affairs believes that the revised training programs make it possible to produce drivers who are fully trained and integrated into the traffic flow, and the reason for the low level of training lies in driving schools that do not provide training at the proper level. But how can you prepare a person who has completely no driving skills in two days and 8 hours on top?
Or the current norm, pay a fine within 20 days with a 50% discount and break it again. It is not clear why it was necessary to escape punishment for exceeding the speed limit by 10 km/h. So we thought that 100 rubles for the budget of a penny, let's remove 10 km / h, and if it is exceeded by 20 km / h, we will make 500 rubles (b it was 300 rubles). Not all of this is very similar to caring for safety on our roads. And now, they do not dare to return to the previously canceled fine for exceeding the speed by more than 10 km / h, according to the deputy Lysakov, this will be regarded by people as another attempt by the authorities to rob them.
You can also look at the road safety strategy that the Government has adopted, which aims to achieve zero deaths in road traffic by 2030. The Vision Zero program adopted in Sweden 30 years ago was taken as a basis. Only who believes that this is possible on the territory of our country?
Victor
Hello Sergey. Received materials about the offense committed by me. Decree 18810129180724173175.
Traffic police officer on materials obtained using a special technical tool operating in automatic mode, which has the functions of photo and video recording. If copies of these materials are attached to the decision, then there is nothing on them, neither the date, nor the time, nor the place, there is no violation of the recorded speed of movement. There are no inscriptions at all, the picture resembles a picture taken with very poor optics. On the this picture it is difficult to identify the brand of the car, but the license plate is well printed, but from a dubious angle.
What should be recorded on the materials considered by the inspector and what picture is attached to the materials of the decision. There are no such materials on the website of the traffic police, they are not reflected. Not on the State Services website.
Is it legal to issue a ruling on a violation if there is no data.
Thank you. Sincerely, Victor.Sergei Milyutin
Victor, hello.
If you received the materials by registered mail, then it must contain copies of the decision on the case of an administrative offense and materials obtained using special technical means operating in automatic mode, having the functions of photo and film shooting, video recording, or means of photographing and filming, video recording .
Also, on the receipt of a fine for violating traffic rules, there must be an enhanced qualified electronic signature of the traffic police officer who drew up the decision.
Victor
Good evening, Sergey. The serial number of the official's electronic signature key certificate is on the resolution. Video footage contains data from a special technical tool. Name - ARENA; Identifier (No.): 1009060. Verification is valid until: 06/03/2020. Measurement error: +/- 2 KM. Coordinates: (not specified)
There is no electronic signature.
Identification of the state registration plate: yes, my car is indicated (model, equipment, color).
This, unfortunately, is not my first fine, but earlier data was indicated in the materials, date, time, coordinates, speed. There is nothing here, just a low-quality photo, very blurry, black, even with a good mobile phone it’s better to get it.
I wrote a claim. I will wait for an answer.
Thank you.Victor
Hello. Federal highway M-8. In front of the settlement, signs 5.23.2 are installed sequentially and after 150m 5.23.1. AT reverse direction respectively 5.24.1 and after 150 m 5.24.2. After the first sign, the end of the settlement can be driven at a speed of 90 km. but it turns out that this is still a settlement and the speed should be 60 km. The driver was caught for exceeding the speed limit. The local traffic police department did not explain this procedure for installing signs.
The same route, three lanes in each direction, the traffic flows are separated by a fence, the roadbed is in good condition, the road markings are applied and clearly visible. The road makes bends in one direction and the other. behind a bend less than 100 m. sign 5.23.1 Lyubovskoye after 150 m. sign 5.24.1 then again 5.23.1 New Lukino and after 250 m. 5.24.1. Signs in both directions are not in line of sight, the road makes bends. Video recording devices have been installed in the village, fixing speeding. Additional speed limit signs have not been installed. From 90 km. immediately up to 60 km. Either brake hard or get fined. The most interesting thing is that there are no settlements. The road is divided by barriers both on the side of streams and on the side of roadsides. Settlements are below road level and are not visible from the road. For what purpose signs 5.23.1 and 5.24.1 are installed. For what purpose video recording devices are installed. An old road passed through these settlements. new road passes these settlements, there are no traffic lights or pedestrian crossings. "Bread place" remains.
Can you explain this situation.
Thank you.Sergei Milyutin
Hello Victor.
In the first case, from the place of installation of the sign 5.24.1 "End of the settlement", the requirements of the Rules in force in settlements lose their force ( it directly follows from the Rules and the national standard) and there is no need to install 5.24.2 "End of settlement". To correct the situation, you can contact the traffic police of the region through the official website to check for the correct installation of road signs.
Traffic Laws
5.24.1, 5.24.2 "End of settlement". The place from which the requirements of the Rules of the Road of the Russian Federation, which establish the procedure for driving in populated areas, become invalid on this road.
GOST R 52289-2004. Technical means of organizing traffic. Rules for the use of road signs, markings, traffic lights, road barriers and guides.
5.6.29 Signs 5.24.1 and 5.24.2 "End of a built-up area" are used to indicate the end of a built-up area, marked respectively by signs 5.23.1 and 5.23.2.
Signs are installed at all exits from the settlement on the actual border of the development.
It is allowed to install sign 5.24.2 at the end of the settlement marked with sign 5.23.1.
If the installation of the sign 5.23.2 "Beginning of the settlement" before the sign 5.23.1, is still explained by regulatory documents in this case:
Sign 5.23.2 is installed in cases where the requirements of the Rules of the Road, regulating the order of movement in populated areas, must be entered on a road section with buildings that are not included in any settlement(dacha settlements, detached enterprises, facilities under construction, etc.).
Then the need to install the sign 5.24.1 "End of the settlement" is not very clear, when only 5.24.2 could be installed.
It is allowed to install sign 5.24.2 at the end of the settlement indicated by sign 5.23.1
Installed road signs and other means of traffic control should not contradict each other and should be unambiguously perceived by road users.
On the second section of the road.
I looked at Yandex maps for the places where signs were installed ( however, maps of the period of reconstruction of this section of the road), despite the rounding of the road, the visibility of signs is ensured in accordance with the rules for their use.
5.1.4 The visibility distance of the sign must be at least 100 m.
Signs 5.23.1 "Beginning of the settlement" and 5.24.1 "End of the settlement" are installed at all entrances to the settlement on the actual border of residential development. What is the reason for the decision to keep the restrictions in force in the settlements I can’t answer.
Sergei Milyutin
Victor, it is strange that the traffic police could not explain the installation of signs, when the types of signs, their number, installation location are determined by the location approved by the relevant State Automobile Inspectorate. The installation of road signs, as well as their removal on specific sections of roads, is carried out with the permission of the State Automobile Inspectorate of the territory, region, autonomous republic.
Evgeniya
Good afternoon!!! Please tell me how you can limit the speed of vehicles in front of a pedestrian crossing with a slight rise in the road. The road is the main one and drivers, knowing their "advantage", accelerate on the rise or on the descent, inducing "horror" on pedestrians. Very scared to cross the road! The road is 1 block from the elementary school (((we are very afraid for the children!!! Thank you.
Sergei Milyutin
Evgenia, hello.
If there is a threat of a traffic accident on this section of the road due to the lack of technical means of organizing traffic, then in accordance with the Federal Law "On Road Safety" dated 10.12.1995 N 196-ФЗ ( The objectives of this Federal Law are: protecting the life, health and property of citizens, protecting their rights and legitimate interests, as well as protecting the interests of society and the state by preventing traffic accidents, reducing the severity of their consequences), measures must be taken to eliminate the causes that may lead to an accident.
Try first, write an appeal to the traffic police department of your region through the official website of the traffic police, as well as to the road management and transport department of the Administration of your city, indicating in detail all the reasons why it is necessary to limit the maximum speed on the specified section of the road. In accordance with the Federal Law of May 2, 2006 N 59-FZ (as amended on November 27, 2017) “On the Procedure for Considering Appeals from Citizens of the Russian Federation”, the appeal will be considered and you will definitely be answered.
Dmitry
Good afternoon! Tell me, please, there is a sign “end of the settlement”, that is, the maximum speed limit is 90 km / h ... 400 meters after it there is a sign with a speed limit of up to 50 km / h and video recording. Such an installation is familiar, that is, the decrease goes from 90 immediately to 50 km / h.
Sergei Milyutin
Hello Dmitry.
The national standard requires that if there is a speed difference of 20 km/h or more from the maximum, a stepped speed limit is applied.
GOST R 52289-2004. Technical means of organizing traffic.
5.4.22 Sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" * is used to prohibit the movement of all vehicles at a speed higher than indicated on the sign if it is necessary to introduce a different maximum speed on a road section than on the previous section.
When limiting the speed of movement on dangerous sections of the road (sharp turns, unsecured visibility of an oncoming vehicle, narrowing of the road, etc.), the zone of action of the sign must correspond to the length of the dangerous section.
If a maximum speed is set in this section, which differs from the maximum speed in the previous section by 20 km / h or more, a stepped speed limit is applied in increments of not more than 20 km / h by sequentially setting signs 3.24 at a distance of 100-150 m from each other .Consequently, the signs were installed in violation of the rules for the use of road signs. You can apply through the official website of the traffic police with a request to check the installation of road signs on this section of the road in accordance with GOST R 52289-2004.
Gregory
Can you explain please. In the village, in front of the pedestrian crossing, there is a sign of a speed limit of 30 km / h, then there is a camera and fines come. Whether the punishment is legal or not, because there is no stepwise reduction in speed.
Sergei Milyutin
Gregory, hello.
In this case, drivers are obliged to comply with the requirements of road signs relating to them in accordance with paragraph 1.3 general provisions Rules, despite the fact that the signs are installed in violation of the rules for the use of road signs.
1.3. Road users are required to know and comply with the requirements of the Rules, traffic lights, signs and markings that apply to them, as well as follow the orders of traffic controllers acting within the rights granted to them and regulating traffic with established signals.
You can request ( through the official website) in the traffic police of your region, about checking for the correct installation of road signs.
We are interested in the following part, in which we are talking about reducing the zone of action of signs:
The area of effect of signs can be reduced:
for signs 3.24 by installing signs 3.25 at the end of their coverage area, respectively, or by using plate 8.2.1. Sign 3.24 coverage area can be reduced by setting sign 3.24 with a different maximum speed;
Now, for your situation, after the intersection there is a sign with a speed limit of 40 km / h, the area of \u200b\u200bwhich, in accordance with the Rules, should extend to the nearest intersection ( or the end of the settlement, in the absence of an intersection). But then there is a road sign 3.24 with a value of 20 km / h, which, if you follow the Rules, reduces the zone of the previously installed sign ( 40 km/h) and from the place of installation 3.24 (20 km/h), the new speed limit is already in effect. Sign 3.24 (20 km/h) applied with plate 8.2.1 "Area", which indicates the area of prohibition signs, in your situation, the length of the section with a restriction of 20 km / h is 30 meters.
From all of the above, the area of effect of the sign with a limit of 40 km/h was reduced by the sign with a value of 20 km/h. Speed limit zone 20 km/h, defined by a sign 8.2.1 , indicating the length of 30 meters. Further, there is a limit of 60 km / h for settlements ( with no other restrictions). For the introduction, after the end of the 20 km / h limit, again the 40 km / h limit, it is necessary to install a sign 3.24 with the corresponding speed value.
It is likely that on the section of the road you are writing about, a sign 3.24 with a limit of 20 km/h in front of the pedestrian crossing was installed later.
To clarify the situation, you can send a request to the traffic police of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in your region, through the official website of the traffic police.
) it is necessary to limit the maximum permitted speed, use signs 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" with a different speed.
But besides this, the national standard requires that if it is necessary to introduce a speed limit in this section, which differs from the maximum speed in the previous section by 20 km / h or more, then a stepwise speed reduction must be applied. With such an organization of the speed of movement, signs 3.24 are installed sequentially at a distance of 100-150 meters from each other.
GOST R 52289-2004. Technical means of organizing traffic.
5.4.22 Sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" ...
... If a maximum speed is set in this section that differs from the maximum speed in the previous section by 20 km / h or more, a stepped speed limit is applied in increments of not more than 20 km / h by sequentially setting signs 3.24 at a distance of 100-150 m from each other friend.It is allowed not to apply a stepped speed limit in front of a settlement marked with sign 5.23.1 or 5.23.2, if the visibility distance of the sign is more than 150 m.
In your situation, they were moving, for example, at a speed of 90 km/h, then a sign limiting 70 km/h ( slow down to 20 km/h) and the next sign limit 50 km/h ( we reduce to the sign for another 20 km / h). We got a stepwise safe speed reduction.
Of course, if the Rules are applied to a given situation, the effect of the sign 3.24 "Maximum speed limit" 70 km / h ended at the intersection and after it it is not forbidden to move again at a speed of 90 km / h, but this will not come to mind, otherwise we will not have time to slow down to the next sign. The speed must provide the driver with the possibility of constant control over the movement of the vehicle in order to comply with the requirements of the Rules.
GOST R 52289-2004. Technical means of organizing traffic.
5.1.6 1.1, 1.2, 1.20.1-1.20.3, 1.25, 2.4, 2.5, .3.4 duplicate sign: A sign installed in the same cross-section of the road as the main sign, which serves to increase the reliability of the perception of information by traffic participants.
Duplicate signs are installed on the dividing strip. On roads without a dividing strip, duplicate signs are installed:
- to the left of the carriageway in cases where oncoming traffic is carried out in one or two lanes;
- above the carriageway in cases where oncoming traffic is carried out in three or more lanes.It is difficult to say what final decision will be made, GOST refers to the rules for installing signs, at the same time, the driver's duty for the situation you have mentioned is directly spelled out in the Rules of the Road.
10.1. The driver must drive the vehicle at a speed not exceeding the established limit, taking into account the traffic intensity, the characteristics and condition of the vehicle and cargo, road and meteorological conditions, in particular visibility in the direction of travel. The speed must provide the driver with the possibility of constant control over the movement of the vehicle in order to comply with the requirements of the Rules.
Decisions on the installation of road signs and other technical means of organizing traffic are taken by the executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation. The types of signs, the number and place of installation are determined by the location, which must be agreed upon by the relevant departments of the traffic police of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia.
The customer of the traffic management project on public roads are:
- for highways of federal significance - the Federal Road Agency authorized to manage these roads;
- for motor roads of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation - executive authorities authorized to manage these roads;
- for municipal highways - executive authorities authorized to manage these roads;
- for departmental and private roads - the owners of these roads.
The road traffic organization project itself is developed on the basis of paragraph 2 of Article 21 of the Federal Law "On road safety" N 196-FZ dated December 10, 1995, in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation, regulatory legal acts of federal executive bodies, rules, standards ( GOST R 52289-2004 and others), technical standards, as well as regulatory legal acts of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.
The reasons for limiting the maximum speed on a particular section of the road (carriageway) may be: an increased number of accidents, narrowing of the road, long descents, turns, merging or crossing traffic flows, poor visibility, weather and climatic conditions, the possibility of unexpected appearance of pedestrians, etc.
For clarification on the installation of road signs on a specific section of the road, you should first contact the relevant department of the traffic police of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, a request can be made on the official website of the traffic police, through the form for receiving applications.
Sergei Milyutin
Peter, hello.
The effect of sign 3.24 extends from the place where the sign is installed to the nearest intersection behind it, and in built-up areas in the absence of an intersection - to the end of the built-up area ( in the absence of signs reducing the area of effect of the sign).
If you are referring to the turning point indicated by the sign 6.3.1 "Turn point", then as a rule these signs are used outside intersections ( otherwise it will be forbidden to turn left), respectively, the effect of sign 3.24 is not interrupted. Signs 6.3.1 are installed on roads with a dividing strip before the turning point on the dividing strip and on roads without a dividing strip.
Aidar
Good evening.
On the highway, 2 signs are installed on one pole: sign 2.3.2 "junction of a secondary road" and sign 3.24 "70". After passing through this intersection, a camera was installed, which recorded a speed of 93 km/h and a fine was received, which indicated the permitted speed of 70 km/h. There are no signs after the intersection. Is the fine fair? doesn't sign 3.24 stop after such an intersection?
Victor
Sergey good day! please explain in more detail the installation of sign 3.24 in the village. The traffic police were brought to administrative responsibility for speeding ... the area of \u200b\u200bthis sign is of interest. when driving on the road, there is a maximum speed limit of 40 km / h, after 30 meters from this sign, before turning into a residential area, a speed limit sign of 20 km / h is set with sign 1.17 “Artificial unevenness”. then the road goes straight, 1 turn into the residential area, then after this turn the sign 5.19.1 with the sign 5.20. is set, then one more turn into the residential area. sign 5.19.1 and sign 5.20 are installed on the same pole between 2 entrances to the residential area, there are no other signs between these entrances. The traffic police officers recorded an excess of speed at BINAR in the area between 2 entrances to the residential area. QUESTION: the validity of the speed limit sign installed before the first entrance to the residential area applies to the area between 2 exits. THANKS
